Adm. Eugene Carroll (USN, Ret.), became Deputy Director of the Center for Defense Information where he spoke out against the reliance on nuclear weapons and other defense-related issues. In the interview he discusses U.S. nuclear military strategy and his views on the necessity of nuclear disarmament. Recalling his days as a pilot in the 1950s, he describes how the Navy turned conventional planes being used in the Korean War into nuclear-capable aircraft, and vividly recounts the lengthy and complex training procedures for delivering nuclear weapons accurately and in such a way as to allow the aircraft to escape the blast. He touches on the detailed plans of the Navy, Air Force, and Army for nuclear war, and how the services integrated nuclear weapons into their strategies. He discusses the rise and fall of massive retaliation doctrine, and offers his views on the financial wastefulness of maintaining large nuclear arsenals. As for their military value, he recounts that it was while standing watch on the decks of aircraft carriers waiting for the onset of hostilities that he came to the realization that fighting a war with nuclear weapons was a terrible option. While at the Naval War College, he wrote a treatise expressing his belief that the Navy should abandon its nuclear mission, but was told by one of the Navys top officers that to do so would mean that the Navy would lose most of its budget to other services. In other words, Adm. Carroll notes, it was a function of inter-service rivalry. There was [n]o other logical explanation.
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